Comments on: Fire Up The Lawyers: Company Makes Illegal Mac Clone http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/04/13147/ Sun, 22 Nov 2009 03:38:00 -0600 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.8.6 hourly 1 By: Lisa http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/04/13147/comment-page-1/#comment-405425 Lisa Fri, 18 Apr 2008 03:46:04 +0000 http://uneasysilence.com/?p=13147#comment-405425 http://gizmodo.com/380488/psystar-exposed-looks-like-a-hoax http://gizmodo.com/380488/psystar-exposed-looks-like-a-hoax

]]> By: Ian http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/04/13147/comment-page-1/#comment-405353 Ian Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:57:50 +0000 http://uneasysilence.com/?p=13147#comment-405353 Gary - My apologies :) Yes, I know the company I was referring to isn't yours, but it either had a very similar name or the product itself was labeled the Xtreme Mac. I remember it being announced around 1997 or so and promised to be a 1200mhz computer. Basically, the company would buy a stock Apple computer, then using the motherboard add on a new processor and accessories, thus getting around the licensing requirement. The case looked god-awful, something like an old microphone from the 1930s. Anyway, sorry about the confusion. Gary – My apologies :) Yes, I know the company I was referring to isn’t yours, but it either had a very similar name or the product itself was labeled the Xtreme Mac. I remember it being announced around 1997 or so and promised to be a 1200mhz computer. Basically, the company would buy a stock Apple computer, then using the motherboard add on a new processor and accessories, thus getting around the licensing requirement. The case looked god-awful, something like an old microphone from the 1930s. Anyway, sorry about the confusion.

]]> By: Gary Bart http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/04/13147/comment-page-1/#comment-405341 Gary Bart Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:55:56 +0000 http://uneasysilence.com/?p=13147#comment-405341 Ian, I don't know what you think you are referring to in your comment about XtremeMac. Our company has never made or even debated making such a product offering. You must be remembering something from another company. Just setting the record straight. Gary Bart CEO XtremeMac Ian, I don’t know what you think you are referring to in your comment about XtremeMac. Our company has never made or even debated making such a product offering. You must be remembering something from another company. Just setting the record straight.

Gary Bart
CEO
XtremeMac

]]> By: YiQin http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/04/13147/comment-page-1/#comment-405340 YiQin Tue, 15 Apr 2008 13:44:20 +0000 http://uneasysilence.com/?p=13147#comment-405340 It seems to me that "Nigel" is a bit worried? if apple hardware/design is as good as you claim then they should have nothing to fear from Pystar or other companies using their OS. The computer can't be called a Mac or any other of the trademarked names. This could ruin Apple's ----- business plan but would potentially give them more market share. Oh no, would it be possible that some company could make better hardware than apple? Its my understanding -feel free to correct me- that other companies already make most of the hardware for Apple's products, I'm sure some of them would love to do so out of contract and sell the products themselves. That would cut Apple's protits. I wish Pystar luck with their legal battle.... It seems to me that “Nigel” is a bit worried? if apple hardware/design is as good as you claim then they should have nothing to fear from Pystar or other companies using their OS. The computer can’t be called a Mac or any other of the trademarked names. This could ruin Apple’s —– business plan but would potentially give them more market share.

Oh no, would it be possible that some company could make better hardware than apple? Its my understanding -feel free to correct me- that other companies already make most of the hardware for Apple’s products, I’m sure some of them would love to do so out of contract and sell the products themselves. That would cut Apple’s protits.

I wish Pystar luck with their legal battle….

]]> By: Nigel http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/04/13147/comment-page-1/#comment-405331 Nigel Tue, 15 Apr 2008 03:30:36 +0000 http://uneasysilence.com/?p=13147#comment-405331 "Robert" from Pystar, is taking it to court and comparing it to: "What if Honda said that, after you buy their car, you could only drive it on the roads they said you could?" The idiot said "after you buy their car", so the 'driver' should have been aware of it. i.e. he should have been aware of the Mac OS X EULA before he tried selling this and stirring trouble. And every Apple product has that "Mac" is a trademark of Apple, Inc., whether he loopholed it by calling the computer OpenMac, but I don't blame Apple for being pissy. They make 'sexy' and 'quality' products, to have a $399 computer come out could potentially ruin the Mac reputation (apart from smugness), can you blame them for wanting to get rid of this? BTW: I am a Mac user, and relatively smug about it, so I can say that based on me. “Robert” from Pystar, is taking it to court and comparing it to: “What if Honda said that, after you buy their car, you could only drive it on the roads they said you could?”

The idiot said “after you buy their car”, so the ‘driver’ should have been aware of it.

i.e. he should have been aware of the Mac OS X EULA before he tried selling this and stirring trouble.

And every Apple product has that “Mac” is a trademark of Apple, Inc., whether he loopholed it by calling the computer OpenMac, but I don’t blame Apple for being pissy.

They make ’sexy’ and ‘quality’ products, to have a $399 computer come out could potentially ruin the Mac reputation (apart from smugness), can you blame them for wanting to get rid of this?

BTW: I am a Mac user, and relatively smug about it, so I can say that based on me.

]]> By: Ryan http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/04/13147/comment-page-1/#comment-405320 Ryan Mon, 14 Apr 2008 21:58:38 +0000 http://uneasysilence.com/?p=13147#comment-405320 the website isn't down anymore, i don't know why all the news sites are saying it "disappeared"... it probably just went down from a huge traffic hit. anyways, it's up now the website isn’t down anymore, i don’t know why all the news sites are saying it “disappeared”… it probably just went down from a huge traffic hit. anyways, it’s up now

]]> By: Mike Meyer http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/04/13147/comment-page-1/#comment-405319 Mike Meyer Mon, 14 Apr 2008 20:51:49 +0000 http://uneasysilence.com/?p=13147#comment-405319 Why does this headline say "Illegal Mac Clone?" Has this issue been settled in some court I'm not aware of? Is "Dan" a judge or even an attorney? This just in: "Blogger jumps to conclusion and (allegedly) posts Illegal headline." Why does this headline say “Illegal Mac Clone?” Has this issue been settled in some court I’m not aware of? Is “Dan” a judge or even an attorney? This just in: “Blogger jumps to conclusion and (allegedly) posts Illegal headline.”

]]> By: Ian http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/04/13147/comment-page-1/#comment-405317 Ian Mon, 14 Apr 2008 18:42:57 +0000 http://uneasysilence.com/?p=13147#comment-405317 Seems to me that the only significant legal issue is the preinstallation of Leopard. If they just sell the computer without an OS, it's just a collection of parts, and it leaves the user to break the EULA. I guess the name OpenMac is also fuzzy, seeing as Apple goes after anything remotely resembling their trademarks. I wonder too if they could just buy and resell Apple logic boards with a case and parts. I remember XtremeMac trying to do that many years ago (never actually shipped though, if I remember correctly) Seems to me that the only significant legal issue is the preinstallation of Leopard. If they just sell the computer without an OS, it’s just a collection of parts, and it leaves the user to break the EULA. I guess the name OpenMac is also fuzzy, seeing as Apple goes after anything remotely resembling their trademarks.

I wonder too if they could just buy and resell Apple logic boards with a case and parts. I remember XtremeMac trying to do that many years ago (never actually shipped though, if I remember correctly)

]]> By: jaredmellentine http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/04/13147/comment-page-1/#comment-405316 jaredmellentine Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:59:09 +0000 http://uneasysilence.com/?p=13147#comment-405316 You can get the rest of the cached pages here: http://www.google.com/search?q=+site%3Awww.psystar.com You can get the rest of the cached pages here: http://www.google.com/search?q=+site%3Awww.psystar.com

]]> By: jaredmellentine http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2008/04/13147/comment-page-1/#comment-405315 jaredmellentine Mon, 14 Apr 2008 17:56:51 +0000 http://uneasysilence.com/?p=13147#comment-405315 Here's the Google cache: http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:8-nCAPGr2SYJ:www.psystar.com/ Here’s the Google cache: http://209.85.173.104/search?q=cache:8-nCAPGr2SYJ:www.psystar.com/

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