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	<title>Comments on: GMail Accounts Hacked, Kinda</title>
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		<title>By: AlexTheMartian</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/08/11739/comment-page-1/#comment-394716</link>
		<dc:creator>AlexTheMartian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 04:08:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ok, here is the thing I found out. if you visit &quot;HTTP://mail.google.com&quot; without being signed in, you get redirected to a page with the url staring with &quot;HTTPS://www.google.com/...&quot; for the login page, and then after loging in you get sent back to &quot;HTTP://mail.google.com&quot;. Also, if you are already logged in to Gmail, when you visit &quot;HTTP://mail.google.com&quot; you will remain on the HTTP protocol. That is strange. and I have the Gmail Notifier system tray icon, and for some reason that only goes to the HTTP protocol. But then, that program is a few years out-dated, and I just personally hate using Google Desktop :-P

Anyone can figure out the reasoning of google for a HTTPS to redirect to HTTP after logging in?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ok, here is the thing I found out. if you visit &#8220;HTTP://mail.google.com&#8221; without being signed in, you get redirected to a page with the url staring with &#8220;HTTPS://www.google.com/&#8230;&#8221; for the login page, and then after loging in you get sent back to &#8220;HTTP://mail.google.com&#8221;. Also, if you are already logged in to Gmail, when you visit &#8220;HTTP://mail.google.com&#8221; you will remain on the HTTP protocol. That is strange. and I have the Gmail Notifier system tray icon, and for some reason that only goes to the HTTP protocol. But then, that program is a few years out-dated, and I just personally hate using Google Desktop :-P</p>
<p>Anyone can figure out the reasoning of google for a HTTPS to redirect to HTTP after logging in?</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:34:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do a simple google search for sniffing packets.  It&#039;s pretty simple to do, but the hard part is isolating the cookie packets to steal.  If you actually look further into the DEFCON technique, you&#039;ll see that it really isn&#039;t just a point and click task.  Not yet anyway...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do a simple google search for sniffing packets.  It&#8217;s pretty simple to do, but the hard part is isolating the cookie packets to steal.  If you actually look further into the DEFCON technique, you&#8217;ll see that it really isn&#8217;t just a point and click task.  Not yet anyway&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Sameer Sontakey</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/08/11739/comment-page-1/#comment-394707</link>
		<dc:creator>Sameer Sontakey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 07 Aug 2007 00:08:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So how is this done exactly? Like what sorts of programs can I use to sniff traffic to capture cookies and then hi-jack them (insert them into my HTTP headers?). Just curious... O:)

And I guess the only way to avoid this from happening is by using SSL via the HTTPS (https://www.gmail.com). Don&#039;t really know why gmail.com doesn&#039;t automatically redirect you to HTTPS protocol.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So how is this done exactly? Like what sorts of programs can I use to sniff traffic to capture cookies and then hi-jack them (insert them into my HTTP headers?). Just curious&#8230; O:)</p>
<p>And I guess the only way to avoid this from happening is by using SSL via the HTTPS (<a href="https://www.gmail.com)" rel="nofollow">https://www.gmail.com)</a>. Don&#8217;t really know why gmail.com doesn&#8217;t automatically redirect you to HTTPS protocol.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/08/11739/comment-page-1/#comment-394700</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 21:55:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It would be true for any web service that utilized cookies for session-based authentication.  Simply sniff the traffic and steal the cookie, and voila, you&#039;re in.

Phil, do you mean stealing cookies for POP3 and FTP, or just sniffing to get the login info in cleartext?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It would be true for any web service that utilized cookies for session-based authentication.  Simply sniff the traffic and steal the cookie, and voila, you&#8217;re in.</p>
<p>Phil, do you mean stealing cookies for POP3 and FTP, or just sniffing to get the login info in cleartext?</p>
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		<title>By: Phil Bridges</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phil Bridges</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 06 Aug 2007 20:49:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Surely the same is true for most  (http) web based accounts not to mention POP3 and FTP?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Surely the same is true for most  (http) web based accounts not to mention POP3 and FTP?</p>
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