Comments on: Meet your meat – go vegan?

By: mmv

mmv — Wed, 06 Jun 2007 18:54:29 +0000

First, you maybe should read and know the Bible before attempting to quote it. Your quote was from Genesis 1:26. Please note Genesis 1:29-30 speaks of grain, fruits, and green plants being for food. There is nothing in the creation account or anywhere else in the Bible to suggest that God intended for people to be cruel to animals in order to maximize their consumption of cheap meat. That is called greed, and maybe gluttony, both of which are sins and a direct result of the sinful nature of man.
Not that I believe vegans are holy, but I don’t think our biblical position as rulers over the earth is a pass to be mean and destroy all the natural life that God created.
Remember Jesus’ parable in Luke, where the servants were given various sums of money to take care of while the landowner was away? He came back to see what the servants did with the money and punished the one who just hid it rather than investing it. Well, when it comes to our God-given environment and the animals that are under our rule, I believe he will find our use of them quite unacceptable.
Do you think you could look God in the eye on judgement day and feel good about supporting factory farming?
By the way, I Cor. 11:7 is “For a man ought not to have his head covered, since he is the image and glory of God; but the woman is the glory of man.” (New Am.Std. version)

By: buzzkill

buzzkill — Mon, 05 Mar 2007 22:45:22 +0000

And God said, Let us make man in our image, 1 Cor. 11.7 after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.

nuff said!

By: Luke

Luke — Sun, 04 Mar 2007 23:19:53 +0000

^What Mark said.

The practices shown are frequent and could quite possibly be said to be the norm within agribusiness. It is inefficient and thus, less profitable, to afford to many rights, pleasant conditions or “luxuries” and subsequently, non-human animals are treated appallingly.

I repeat, watch Earthlings (via torrent if necessary) to get a better and more thorough picture.

By: mark h

mark h — Sun, 04 Mar 2007 19:54:30 +0000

Tensenki – relax buddy. You’re taking a one-sided perspective and wearing it like a badge of honour. Family owned/operated ranches and farms are not the things that are usually questioned (that’s not to say there are not issues). In fact, many of those family owned places are on the same side as animal rights groups on this one. It’s the mega-farms that are putting families out of business (in fact, this may be why your grandparents “owned,” and 2nd uncle “had” a farm) that most people have an immediate bone to pick with – places where “humane practices” are not in place most of the time.

That being said – if someone believes raising and slaughtering animals is unethical (in any setting), I think it’s hardly fair to call it “a load of horse shit” simply because you have familial relations with people in that industry. It’s a good way of making yourself look like a knob.

By: Tensenki

Tensenki — Sun, 04 Mar 2007 18:26:50 +0000

I’m sorry, but this is a load of horse shit. My grandparents owned a farm, my 2nd unlce had a dairy farm, and my best friend`s family raises cattle on a ranch. In the 30+ years I have been frequenting these locations, the only thing that came close to something I considered inhumane is when they rubber band the little calfs boys so their meat doesnt get tough.
You want to see something unnatural. Take a look at an unedited and uncensored wildlife videos. Nature is far more creul than man…
The answer isnt to stop eating meat, the answer it to ensure humane practices are in place.

By: robert

robert — Sun, 04 Mar 2007 13:46:14 +0000

You can find extremes in almost any business. Most of the video obviously was not taken in this country. This kind of propaganda is called generalizing from the specific.

By: Luke

Luke — Sun, 04 Mar 2007 01:56:34 +0000

Note: I like how you said “go vegan” as opposed to suggesting vegetarianism. Also, a documentary movie called Earthlings can be found via torrent for those who are interested, which addresses all the forms of exploitation more intelligently.

By: Luke

Luke — Sun, 04 Mar 2007 01:48:15 +0000

Indeed human rights abuses still occur within produce gathering, but does that mean we should do nothing at all – not even try? Besides, is not grain etc still gathered in order to feed the animals?

Being able to choose is one thing. The point is that non-human animals should also have that right, the right to not be property – to live as they please.

For the record that does not mean I agree with the actions of PETA. They are essentially a welfarist corporation that profits from the “animal rights industry” that exists at the moment. The issues with PETA are discussed on my blog here.

By: Derek

Derek — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 19:59:20 +0000

I believe Brodie may have a noticeable point everyone should consider. As with any marketing ploy, only certain angles are communicated to the intended audience in order to express a specific message.

By: Meat Eater

Meat Eater — Sat, 03 Mar 2007 13:39:11 +0000

without people eating meat, cows would go extinct.

when was the last time you saw a wild cow in north america? it’s been a while for me too. without the meat industry making cows reproduce, there wouldnt be any left.

i know there’s some nimrod out there who thinks i just tried to make a serious argument. it was a joke, and only to peta people, democrats, and homosexuals would a God-fearing republican meat-eater like myself have to explain that.

that too was a joke… please dont kill me.