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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/01/9338/comment-page-1/#comment-361470</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Jan 2007 00:06:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>And with that, I close the comments.  I think we have covered all bases here.

I agree MT is aggressively fixing the problems, but the fixes still are not living up to the promises set forth when they sell the product.  But eventually they may.

Again, I am a CUSTOMER of BOTH Media Temple and Mosso so I see the strengths and weaknesses  of both companies first hand.  I was writing about MY experiences and opinions of both companies.  No money exchanged hands, no secret motivations.  I think it was also good to clear the air and have a real conversation about this matter.

The lesson is:  Carefully read about your host before you select them.  For some people 1&amp;1 is more then enough, others need Rackspace.  The sea is filled with hosts.  I prefer Mosso.  They provide the level of service and support that I demand and have handled my high traffic load perfectly.

This article reflected the state of Media Temple when the article was written. I am sure in time MT will achieve what they want to achieve.  They just are not there yet.

Closing statement:  Buyer beware!  Do your homework before selecting a host, there are many good ones there are many bad ones.  Read as much as you can before you make your decision.

If you feel more comments need to be added to this post please email us at tips@uneasysilence.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And with that, I close the comments.  I think we have covered all bases here.</p>
<p>I agree MT is aggressively fixing the problems, but the fixes still are not living up to the promises set forth when they sell the product.  But eventually they may.</p>
<p>Again, I am a CUSTOMER of BOTH Media Temple and Mosso so I see the strengths and weaknesses  of both companies first hand.  I was writing about MY experiences and opinions of both companies.  No money exchanged hands, no secret motivations.  I think it was also good to clear the air and have a real conversation about this matter.</p>
<p>The lesson is:  Carefully read about your host before you select them.  For some people 1&#038;1 is more then enough, others need Rackspace.  The sea is filled with hosts.  I prefer Mosso.  They provide the level of service and support that I demand and have handled my high traffic load perfectly.</p>
<p>This article reflected the state of Media Temple when the article was written. I am sure in time MT will achieve what they want to achieve.  They just are not there yet.</p>
<p>Closing statement:  Buyer beware!  Do your homework before selecting a host, there are many good ones there are many bad ones.  Read as much as you can before you make your decision.</p>
<p>If you feel more comments need to be added to this post please email us at <a href="mailto:tips@uneasysilence.com">tips@uneasysilence.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Derek</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/01/9338/comment-page-1/#comment-361418</link>
		<dc:creator>Derek</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:58:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As many others are already aware, the Grid has definitely experienced its share of downtime. Personally, the bulk of these issues that I have experienced have been limited to MySQL errors / unavailability. Hosting customers must recognize the difficulty in forecasting the amount of traffic generated by its customers. When the Grid was announced, many, including myself, believed that the system could withstand large surges of traffic due &quot;redundant everything&quot; (as &lt;a href=&quot;http://paulstamatiou.com/2006/10/10/media-temples-grid-server-coming-next-weekish/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Paul&lt;/a&gt; was cited as saying). In reality, these initial presumptions actually contributed to the recent outages experienced by customers. 

The shortcomings were discovered as major site administrators viewed the Grid as an opportunity to offload their massive amounts of traffic while saving a significant amount of money. $20/mo for 100 GB&#039;s of storage and 1 TB of bandwidth was too enticing to pass up. The initial stability that MT convinced customers about was immediately crippled as massive sites quickly consumed crucial resources resulting in the downtime that many, including myself, have cried and shaken our fists at. 

Has (mt) disappointed or fallen short (of expectations) in regards to the Grid? In a way, yes. My initial expectations were surely clouded by the &quot;hype&quot; surrounding this new revolutionary hosting package offered to the the public at an affordable price. However, it is important to note that the team behind the Grid is actively making improvements in order to resolve the issues that customers have reported. Ronald linked the &lt;a href=&quot;http://weblog.mediatemple.net/weblog/category/system-incidents/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Sytem Incidents&lt;/a&gt; page which is an example of the current problems / resolutions that the (mt) staff is aware of.

Media Temple continues to develop new technologies - one of which includes the new Container Technology created to alleviate the stressful MySQL errors that have shown face over the past few months. 

From Dreamhost and Bluehost, to Media Temple and Mosso, whichever hosting solution you decide to run with... Understand that 100% uptime is non-existent - a dream. Weigh your options and recognize disadvantages of each. Worried about the Grid and uptime? Consider going Dedicated (dv). Considering Mosso? Understand that they&#039;re somewhat restrictive as far as administrative rights are concerned - WordPress inline template editing (disabled). Each host has their Pro&#039;s &amp; Con&#039;s, weigh both sides before jumping in without testing the waters. Eugene, as I am sure others do as well, balances multiple hosts to move back and forth between. If you&#039;re serious about uptime and staying visible to readers, don&#039;t pinch pennies and expect the red carpet all the way to the front page of Google.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As many others are already aware, the Grid has definitely experienced its share of downtime. Personally, the bulk of these issues that I have experienced have been limited to MySQL errors / unavailability. Hosting customers must recognize the difficulty in forecasting the amount of traffic generated by its customers. When the Grid was announced, many, including myself, believed that the system could withstand large surges of traffic due &#8220;redundant everything&#8221; (as <a href="http://paulstamatiou.com/2006/10/10/media-temples-grid-server-coming-next-weekish/" rel="nofollow">Paul</a> was cited as saying). In reality, these initial presumptions actually contributed to the recent outages experienced by customers. </p>
<p>The shortcomings were discovered as major site administrators viewed the Grid as an opportunity to offload their massive amounts of traffic while saving a significant amount of money. $20/mo for 100 GB&#8217;s of storage and 1 TB of bandwidth was too enticing to pass up. The initial stability that MT convinced customers about was immediately crippled as massive sites quickly consumed crucial resources resulting in the downtime that many, including myself, have cried and shaken our fists at. </p>
<p>Has (mt) disappointed or fallen short (of expectations) in regards to the Grid? In a way, yes. My initial expectations were surely clouded by the &#8220;hype&#8221; surrounding this new revolutionary hosting package offered to the the public at an affordable price. However, it is important to note that the team behind the Grid is actively making improvements in order to resolve the issues that customers have reported. Ronald linked the <a href="http://weblog.mediatemple.net/weblog/category/system-incidents/" rel="nofollow">Sytem Incidents</a> page which is an example of the current problems / resolutions that the (mt) staff is aware of.</p>
<p>Media Temple continues to develop new technologies &#8211; one of which includes the new Container Technology created to alleviate the stressful MySQL errors that have shown face over the past few months. </p>
<p>From Dreamhost and Bluehost, to Media Temple and Mosso, whichever hosting solution you decide to run with&#8230; Understand that 100% uptime is non-existent &#8211; a dream. Weigh your options and recognize disadvantages of each. Worried about the Grid and uptime? Consider going Dedicated (dv). Considering Mosso? Understand that they&#8217;re somewhat restrictive as far as administrative rights are concerned &#8211; WordPress inline template editing (disabled). Each host has their Pro&#8217;s &amp; Con&#8217;s, weigh both sides before jumping in without testing the waters. Eugene, as I am sure others do as well, balances multiple hosts to move back and forth between. If you&#8217;re serious about uptime and staying visible to readers, don&#8217;t pinch pennies and expect the red carpet all the way to the front page of Google.</p>
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		<title>By: Ronald Heft</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/01/9338/comment-page-1/#comment-359231</link>
		<dc:creator>Ronald Heft</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Jan 2007 02:01:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While things still aren&#039;t perfect, have a look at the known issues now. They did a whole bunch of configuration changes today, leaving only the MySQL issue remaining. The MySQL issue is going to be resolved in a little over a month with the release of MySQL containers, so hopefully things will be better then.

http://weblog.mediatemple.net/weblog/category/system-incidents/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While things still aren&#8217;t perfect, have a look at the known issues now. They did a whole bunch of configuration changes today, leaving only the MySQL issue remaining. The MySQL issue is going to be resolved in a little over a month with the release of MySQL containers, so hopefully things will be better then.</p>
<p><a href="http://weblog.mediatemple.net/weblog/category/system-incidents/" rel="nofollow">http://weblog.mediatemple.net/weblog/category/system-incidents/</a></p>
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		<title>By: Chuck Cheeze</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/01/9338/comment-page-1/#comment-359099</link>
		<dc:creator>Chuck Cheeze</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 22:19:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed- we jumped onto MT after Dreamhosts&#039; horrible September and were promptly greeted with downtime and email woes.  After being assured that this would all go away by moving to the Grid, we moved.  And the problems got a lot worse.  Then i went to Mosso.  Just about the same time a spammer got them blacklisted for about 2 weeks, crippling a lot of my companies outgoing emails.  Finally, we got a VPS on Liquidweb and have had ZERO problems, not even a hiccup since.  Dedicated IP and resources is the way to go.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed- we jumped onto MT after Dreamhosts&#8217; horrible September and were promptly greeted with downtime and email woes.  After being assured that this would all go away by moving to the Grid, we moved.  And the problems got a lot worse.  Then i went to Mosso.  Just about the same time a spammer got them blacklisted for about 2 weeks, crippling a lot of my companies outgoing emails.  Finally, we got a VPS on Liquidweb and have had ZERO problems, not even a hiccup since.  Dedicated IP and resources is the way to go.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/01/9338/comment-page-1/#comment-359069</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 21:24:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nope, the post is &lt;strong&gt;not sponsored by Mosso&lt;/strong&gt;.  This is a review of my interaction on the Mosso system, and is my opinion based on facts that I have gathered.  And I do have proof the MySQL data was accidentally destroyed.  The banner is displayed because I am proud of the platform as you can read we are &lt;strong&gt;&quot;Powered by Mosso&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;  not &lt;strong&gt;&quot;Sponsored by Mosso&quot;&lt;/strong&gt;.  Hope that clears things up.

For the record I am a current Mosso AND MediaTemple customer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nope, the post is <strong>not sponsored by Mosso</strong>.  This is a review of my interaction on the Mosso system, and is my opinion based on facts that I have gathered.  And I do have proof the MySQL data was accidentally destroyed.  The banner is displayed because I am proud of the platform as you can read we are <strong>&#8220;Powered by Mosso&#8221;</strong>  not <strong>&#8220;Sponsored by Mosso&#8221;</strong>.  Hope that clears things up.</p>
<p>For the record I am a current Mosso AND MediaTemple customer.</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/01/9338/comment-page-1/#comment-359036</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 20:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don&#039;t quite understand what you meant by &quot;On Media Temple your PHP technology is selected for you&quot; as it looks like their grid server lets you choose between 4 &amp; 5 (http://mediatemple.net/webhosting/gs/)  It is interesting that you point out that (mt) has lost or destroyed customer data because of their MySQL setup.  I couldn&#039;t find any references to this, do you actually know someone who lost data?

One thing that kind of bothered me about this post was the fact that you say &quot;do us all a favor and shut down your grid or stop accepting new customers&quot; while sporting a conspicuously placed Mosso logo.  Looks like a few people have pointed this out over on Digg.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t quite understand what you meant by &#8220;On Media Temple your PHP technology is selected for you&#8221; as it looks like their grid server lets you choose between 4 &amp; 5 (<a href="http://mediatemple.net/webhosting/gs/" rel="nofollow">http://mediatemple.net/webhosting/gs/</a>)  It is interesting that you point out that (mt) has lost or destroyed customer data because of their MySQL setup.  I couldn&#8217;t find any references to this, do you actually know someone who lost data?</p>
<p>One thing that kind of bothered me about this post was the fact that you say &#8220;do us all a favor and shut down your grid or stop accepting new customers&#8221; while sporting a conspicuously placed Mosso logo.  Looks like a few people have pointed this out over on Digg.</p>
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		<title>By: Web Developers</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/01/9338/comment-page-1/#comment-358874</link>
		<dc:creator>Web Developers</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 18:24:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What you say maybe true and could be based upon facts but we need to know what % of customers have experienced this problem in MT

Nowadays big web forums are run by hosting companies themselves and therefore are biased. The hosting reviews are almost always skewed.

Blog reviews are the only hope for the future to find the best host and to avoid the worst.

I wonder when an unbiased and objective forum will be created which will give the actual facts about hosts?

Chris
http://www.chrisranjana.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What you say maybe true and could be based upon facts but we need to know what % of customers have experienced this problem in MT</p>
<p>Nowadays big web forums are run by hosting companies themselves and therefore are biased. The hosting reviews are almost always skewed.</p>
<p>Blog reviews are the only hope for the future to find the best host and to avoid the worst.</p>
<p>I wonder when an unbiased and objective forum will be created which will give the actual facts about hosts?</p>
<p>Chris<br />
<a href="http://www.chrisranjana.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.chrisranjana.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/01/9338/comment-page-1/#comment-358595</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:35:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Also, Media Temple is invited to respond - but for every accusation I made I have facts to back them up fully.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Also, Media Temple is invited to respond &#8211; but for every accusation I made I have facts to back them up fully.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/01/9338/comment-page-1/#comment-358587</link>
		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:26:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not trying to get my site dugg so slam Media Temple.  I am point out their patterns in their patterns in the past, and how they are operating as of now.  I&#039;m glad you think the Grid quality is improving - because frankly it can&#039;t get worse!

And the above writeup ONLY APPLIES to the GRID, I can&#039;t speak for the Dedicated servers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not trying to get my site dugg so slam Media Temple.  I am point out their patterns in their patterns in the past, and how they are operating as of now.  I&#8217;m glad you think the Grid quality is improving &#8211; because frankly it can&#8217;t get worse!</p>
<p>And the above writeup ONLY APPLIES to the GRID, I can&#8217;t speak for the Dedicated servers.</p>
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		<title>By: Jaymis</title>
		<link>http://uneasysilence.com/archive/2007/01/9338/comment-page-1/#comment-358584</link>
		<dc:creator>Jaymis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Jan 2007 13:18:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree wholeheartedly with what&#039;s been expressed here. We moved &lt;a href=&quot;http://createdigitalmusic.com&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;CreateDigitalMusic&lt;/a&gt; to MT&#039;s grid after being kicked off 1and1 and Site5 for &quot;resources abuse&quot;. For the record, 1and1 were absolutely shocking, shutting down our site without any prior notice, nor any contact to tell us what had happened.. Site5 were at least decent enough to inform us that we were close to redlining the server so we could take steps to improve the situation.

Our site had been rock solid (if a little slow at times) on site5. The moment we hit the Grid things went bad. We had constant downtime. Techs contradicting each other and themselves, everything was utterly shocking. We were eventually convinced that we should switch to one of MT&#039;s dedicated servers, and things actually got &lt;em&gt;worse&lt;/em&gt;. Wordpress&#039; &quot;error establishing a database connection&quot; page was my constant companion. MT&#039;s techs had no idea what was going on. It was a debarcle from start to finish.

MT, like Site5 before them have made bold promises about how their new cool hosting technology is going to &quot;revolutionize hosting&quot;, then rolled out products which just plain don&#039;t work.

We&#039;re now happily on a dedicated server managed by a friend of the site, since reaching parity with a clean apache/php install we&#039;ve been solid and happy, and able to get back to the important stuff: writing content!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree wholeheartedly with what&#8217;s been expressed here. We moved <a href="http://createdigitalmusic.com" rel="nofollow">CreateDigitalMusic</a> to MT&#8217;s grid after being kicked off 1and1 and Site5 for &#8220;resources abuse&#8221;. For the record, 1and1 were absolutely shocking, shutting down our site without any prior notice, nor any contact to tell us what had happened.. Site5 were at least decent enough to inform us that we were close to redlining the server so we could take steps to improve the situation.</p>
<p>Our site had been rock solid (if a little slow at times) on site5. The moment we hit the Grid things went bad. We had constant downtime. Techs contradicting each other and themselves, everything was utterly shocking. We were eventually convinced that we should switch to one of MT&#8217;s dedicated servers, and things actually got <em>worse</em>. Wordpress&#8217; &#8220;error establishing a database connection&#8221; page was my constant companion. MT&#8217;s techs had no idea what was going on. It was a debarcle from start to finish.</p>
<p>MT, like Site5 before them have made bold promises about how their new cool hosting technology is going to &#8220;revolutionize hosting&#8221;, then rolled out products which just plain don&#8217;t work.</p>
<p>We&#8217;re now happily on a dedicated server managed by a friend of the site, since reaching parity with a clean apache/php install we&#8217;ve been solid and happy, and able to get back to the important stuff: writing content!</p>
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