159!!!! great scott!!!, you could boil some water.

I like the idea of putting the coffee on the power suppy!

Boiling water? Not really. Since water boils at 212, your Macbook would have to get at least that hot. But hey, theoretically speaking, if you’re cooking an egg, that means heat is leaving the computer and going to the egg, and the egg is essentially acting as a heat sink, so you’re actually helping cool the thing… :-p

“159!!!! great scott!!!, you could boil some water.”

I suppose you could be joking - or from one of the Celsius based parts of the world - but I’m pretty sure you’d have to be on top of Everest to boil at that heat!

159 degrees is misleading. If you click through on the link you will see that that the proc temp was 159. It does not say anything about the external temp. So unless you plan on boiling that water directly on the proc your efforts might be sadly in vain.

“159!!!! great scott!!!, you could boil some water.”

I sure hope you’re kidding. Water boils at 212 F. Thanks for playing.

The processor went to 159 degrees, not the case. The case is not even near that temperature.
I’d like you to see you cook an egg on your processor.

Maijic, Water boils at 202 Fahrenheit..

Lets call it CookBook instead..

id like to know what kind of work he was doing on the macbook to get it this hot. i got my ibook to 166 degrees last night after like 2 hours of switching back and forth from imovie and idvd, encoding, copying and editing. but if thats when the machine is idle? yeah, its freaking hot

This freaks me out a little bit because I am planning on buying a Macbook this fall as my main machine. I haven’t used a Mac since my dual-floppy Mac SE days (which still runs btw!) but this temperature issue really concerns me. My crapy Dell notebook can get hot but is the Macbook really that bad? To me this is the only thing that might keep me from buying one of these laptops as aside from the heat issue it looks to be the perfect notebook for me.

Just for the record, water boils at 100c :P lol

One last item. Coming from PowerBooks, I am very impressed with the battery life. I can normally squeeze more than 3 hours from my typical duty cycle. I remember I had to buy an extra battery for my last PowerBook to get this much life.

I know the powersupply for my powerbook is very nice for keeping my coffee warm:) but I dont think I’d try cooking on it yet… could be annoying getting egg inside the damn thing.. (and a 12″ powerbook doesnt get that hot…)

anyway. its cheaper to buy a hotplate and a fryingpan that to repair your powerbook after getting it full of egg.. (dont thing the warranty covers eggdamage..)

This article is completely misleading. 159 processor temperature is completely normal.

For example, Xeon in servers have failure threshold at 90C - or about 196 Fahrenheit. As long as the system can keep the CPU below that temperature, it will run fine.

All the components in Macbook are the same as in Dell, IBM or whatever, they will produce the same amount of heat for the same amount of work. If you don’t want the heat, get a cell phone instead of laptop. The heat will come out somewhere - whether it is the underside, the side, or trapped in the laptop and fry your motherboard. Where do you want it?

And I cannot believe there are so many clueless people blaming Apple for this.

MacCook?

I think the people saying that this post is blaming Apple for something are being a little over sensitive. I don’t think anyone is *blaming* apple. If you carefully and closely read the story you’ll just find that its says it gets hot enough to cook and egg. It says *nothing* about this being bad or that “Apple sucks for not having better cooling” or anything of that sort.

There are a lot of mac zealots out there who refuse to bear any sort of comment that might even be construed as a criticism of their beloved Apple. Someday I do hope they will wak up and realise that its just a damn computer - not a way of life.

Oh, and befomre someone says I don’t understand because I don’t use a mac - I’m writing this on my 12″ powerbook. Thanks for playing.

while 159 may be a perfectly reasonable temperature for a processor J Huang it isn’t for the laptop housing the processor, especially when it’s sitting on your leg. Yes that heat must escape, but apple’s choice of diverting it to your legs isn’t really a good one.

i meant its usually a little over 100 F, the most ive seen is 50 º when burning a dvd.

[quote]Yes that heat must escape, but apple’s choice of diverting it to your legs isn’t really a good one.[/quote]
thats actually not even apple’s choice… their choice is the DESK as the computer is considered a PORTABLE computer, not a “laptop” — its going to get hot; wtf its not like you touch the hood of your car and expect it to not be hot right?

you americans are weird - you can’t even get your units right!

the sientific unit for temperature is deg. celsius - just forget about F!

As much as I love apple, this is partially apple’s fault. They are putting WAY TOO MUCH thermal paste on their laptop’s components. too much paste acts as an insulator, sealing in the heat rather than transfering it to the heatsink. Google it, you’ll see what I mean.

Several \”Quick\” Comments:

1.) If anyone bothered to go to the original web site where the original photo and comments are posted, you will see that the comments end with the disclaimer, \”P.S. This is a joke…\” Of course, no one has the reading skills or attention span to get that far.

2.) Think about how damn big and complicated PowerMac G5 has to be to keep two (or four) processors cool yet quiet. Despite these efforts, most PowerMac G5s throw off enough heat to warm a small room. Try sitting with one of those on your lap. Not only is it heavy, but its warm. No chance in hell ever getting that thing into a notebook case

3.) Consider the Core Duo based MacBooks and MacBook Pros. These machines perform as well as–if not better than–dual PowerMac G5s on many tasks. You\’ve got the computational power of a dual processor PowerMac G5 in a small, mobile form factor!!

4.) The Core Duo gives you the performance of a dual G5 using less power and generating less heat. (Did you know that the current dual core PowerMac G5s ship with a 1000 watt power supply?) That does not mean the Core Duo is going to be as cool as or cooler than a G4. This does mean it is going to be more efficient and cooler than a G5.

5.) Apple packs the computational performance of their behemoth PowerMac G5 into an iBook sized case. No matter what chip you use, that much processing power is going to generate a heat. Intel chips allow Apple to do what IBM/Freescale could not and all people can do is bitch about the warm cases.

6.) People love to bitch about anything. Assuming that a change in fan performance kept the MacBooks and MacBook Pros cooler, people would complain about the fans being on too much, the fans being too loud, the decreased battery performance, all of the above and then some.

7.) While some will defend Apple to their last breath and believe the company can do no wrong, others will chastise and castigate the company and believe it can do no right. Apple could build a laptop/desktop/iPod that fit their very wettest wet dream and these people would still find something wrong with the device and complain that Apple had a defective product.

8.) I wonder how many of these people claiming Apple uses too much thermal paste have PhDs in thermodynamics and/or electrical engineering. I wonder how many years of experience they have designing, building and testing hardware from scratch. I don\’t know, but maybe Apple with all of their PhDs, Master\’s Degrees, and 30 years of experience might know more than these schmucks?

9.) Most people who claim the amount of thermal grease Apple is using is too much have screwed up re-assembly of their machines and neglected to connect one or more thermal sensors. As a result, the unit\’s fans are ALWAYS on. When the fans are always running you will naturally have a lower temperature.

Well I think that about wraps it up. Thanks for tunning in. Till next time…Goodbye.

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Actully, the entire world (aside from America) is on Celcius. It’s only you nutty Americans who insist on using archaic measurement systems that make no logical sense. I mean, why would the boiling point of water be set at 212 degrees farenheit? Why would zero farenheit be set at an arbitrary abount? Crazyness, pure crazyness.

Gimmie Metric any day, where everything is powers of 10, and you can instantly tell how many millimetres are in a kilometer without having to pull out a calculator or do ten minutes of mental calculations.

Dear Rene Kabis, Is this post about the macbook temperature or about the Celsius vs Fahrenheit issue? If you have any issues regarding the superiority of each I think this is not the right forum to address your criticism. Besides, dumbass, do you realize that in America the metric system is indeed used in every field (science, medicine, etc). I guess you don’t! And besides, America is ONE of the (if not THE) most technologically advanced nation in the world regardless of which system we use. Can you say that about where you are from?

Now to the issue at hand. Yes, they do get a little hot! Yes, I wish they didn’t. No, I wouldn’t change my mac for any other computer!

the sientific unit for temperature is deg. celsius - just forget about F!

Uhm, no.

The scientific unit for temperature is Kelvin (K).

Taiwan says there is no problem….. See? Denial is not just a river in Egypt

Article here:
http://www.digitimes.com/systems/a20060714VL203.html

There is a really great app called Liquid Coolant that freezes up the processor and you supposedly don’t even need a fan
Link here:
http://www.lytron.com/standard/cold_plates.asp

I am a PC gal, so I am not sure if it will work for a Mac. I also got a cool app with the motherboard that is called Speed Fan and it shows the drive and processor temps - cool:
http://www.download.com/SpeedFan/3000-2094_4-10540297.html?tag=lst-0-2
However, it is a windows based app.

GL

Anders resents the mispelling of his name ;-)

We’re not just nutty Americans, we have GWB, a fooking idiot.

Who needs McDonalds? Finally I can get my Egg “Mac” Muffins anywhere on the go. The Macbook makes it so easy, even with Canadian bacon and cheese…well, hold the cheese please.

MacBook vs. Dell in a heat match

http://www.tuaw.com/2006/07/17/macbook-vs-dell-in-a-heat-match/

Strangely enough I was looking at the 2 gig black Macbook but now I am leaning towards the 1.8 white version instead. Seems to be a better bang for the buck.

That’s not bad, I have a IBM T41. I never use it on my lap because it’s considered “ok” at 130F. If I play a game or surf the web too much, it goes up to at leat 180, the heighest it’s been is 194F. Anyway, I blame Intel. I’m glad Apple is trying to be more versitle, but Intel? AMD would’ve been nice.

Maybe someone already mentioned this… I don’t know. I any case, some MacBooks have a clear plastic dust cover covering the rear fan vent. After removing the plastic, my macbook rarely gets above 104 degrees F.

Another thing: certain people have disassembled their macbooks and found too much thermal paste on the CPU and GPU. I haven’t tried it yet, but scraping off a bit of the paste would probably cool it down even more…

Go ahead and give it a shot, if you’re still having heat problems. Even if the intel processor is capable of running at such high temperatures, it will have a damaging effect on the circuitry… and god forbid you ever worked with the thing on your lap *imagines legs cooking instead of eggs.*

“Dear Rene Kabis, I see you are a great fan of the Centigrade system, or as you call it, ‘Celcius.’ ”

Actually celcius is the correct name for the scale http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celsius

I’m curious to know if you also use the Metric Calendar, with its convenient and sensible 10-day weeks, rather than the archaic Catholic/Celtic/Teutonic/Roman idiocy of the 7-day-week? (Why 7? Did some mutant primitive have 7 fingers on his hand? This I cannot understand.) I am sure you and all progressive-thinking citoyens will agree the Metric Calendar is the way to go.

There are 7 days in a week because of Genesis chapter 1! (The Bible)

Oh and to say it again the CPU temp does not equal the outer case temp whether it is in deg C or deg F!!!! Also this story was just a joke!!!!

my macbook gets up to 87 degrees Celsius!
thats about 188 degrees fahrenheit