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Want to drink in England? Prepare to get fingerprinted

England must love being tracked, and monitored:

In an effort to reduce alcohol related violence, England is rolling out mandatory fingerprinting of all pub patrons. If a pub owner refuses to comply with the new system, and fails to show ‘considerable’ reductions in alcohol-related crimes, they will lose their license. Supposedly the town that piloted this program had a 48% reduction in alcohol-related crime.

So let me get this right. For you to get a nice cold (er…cellar cooled) pint, I need to get fingerprinted?! Any UK readers want to chime in on this?

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  • http://www.areyoushort.com ADAM

    This story is a little senstationalist.

    It’s not compulsory and it’s not all pubs. Just those pubs and clubs that are having MAJOR problems with drunken violence etc. And then it’s up the the licencee if they want to join the scheme.

  • Kevin

    Im a UK’er and I dont think its such a bad idea. If its going to cut down on the amount of useless drunks roaming the country and actually produce useless information to use against crimes then im fore it.

    I dont ever see it coming in to play though…too pricey

  • Kev (UK)

    Its the first i’ve heard of this…If it ever became more widespread in the UK i think there would be riots in the streets. Never get between a english man and his pint :-)

    More seriously, some of the larger towns in the UK are a nightmare at night so I can defo see this being useful and probably likely in the largest pubs in the future. I live in a smallish town (

  • tom (dB)

    I’d say this was only in violent areas, and even then at only some pubs. Maybe near football grounds? It certainly isn’t happening around here in Leeds. In fact, I’m going to get me a nice fingerprint free pint ths very afternoon.

  • Adam

    I think this is only for the pub patron – i.e. the owner. But, I have no idea how the hell this is supposed to work at all. How can the pub owner be responsible for other people going out, getting drunk, and being violent? This government is so ridiculous.

  • Nigel Dermott

    As an alcohol crime consultant I would say that these are generally a great idea for covering the due diligence aspect of underage drinking where premises are able or proven to have a specific problem. Better by far though is the system that reads ID cards, such as the ones required to be shown to get into the premises. I fail to see how this can be made a condition of the licence and would help any Designated premises supervisor on this aspect if required through a review. These work best where introduced through partnership working and the sceptics should believe me when I say that the public feel much safer knowing that any offenders might be traced through having one. They should not be made conditional of entry in 100% cases. They do not stop people getting drunk but of course the operators of venues must accept joint responsibility for selling to underage people and drunks in the first place. This kit is not being directly supported by government but a number of funding streams might help establish the initiative. In summary they work well and sceptics should go and see for themselves before making any judgment.

  • Ashley

    Yer im a uk ppl it is real good idea as it would reduce crime as those doing it would get found out!

  • http://strix.org.uk Stricky

    EVen a few years ago I would have been dead against this, but having worked as a barman in a pub next to a UK coucil estate, I think it’s a good thing. There is a truly staggering level of drunken violence in some UK city centres, unlike any other country I’ve lived in, and licencees can be liable for customers who’ve left their premises drunk and then broken the law. I makes sense that pub owners would want to limit which people they become responsible for, and as a customer it’s good to know that there are pubs I can enjoy without having to deal with violent football louts who are looking for someone to kick the crap out of.

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